From: MaryAnn M. Butterfield
Subject: F-86 Pilot - In Korea - Dayton W. Ragland

Dear Webmaster,

With the permission and assistance of his widow, Nettye Ann Ragland, I am writing the biography of Colonel Dayton W. Ragland, USAF. I am hoping that a message on your web site might reach pilots who flew the F-86 with him in pilot training; in Korea; or with him in Camp 2, Korea, as a POW; or participated with him in the 1952 Pyuktong D.P.R.K. POW Olympics. Perhaps someone can identify the others in this photo or the event?

(Captain Ragland is in the front row, on the right-can anyone identify the others?)

A brief overview of the period I need:
1951, as a 1st Lt, Dayton William Ragland, USAF, was assigned to the 336FIS and flew the F-86 in Korea;
November 18, 1951, he destroyed four Russian MIGS on the ground, at Uiju Air Base;
November 28, 1951, he shot down a Russian MIG during aerial combat; seconds later, his aircraft was hit by Russian pilot Yevgeni Pepelyayev, who writes about this mission in, A Red Predator Over 'MiG Alley';
November 28, 1951, Dayton Ragland bailed out and became a POW;
September 1953, the POWs were repatriated;

A brief overview of his career after Korea:
Dayton Ragland continued his career in the USAF; he was stationed at O'Hare AFB, married, had a child, and was an ROTC Instructor at Howard University, Washington DC, prior to completing F-4C training. Assigned to Ubon, he had completed 97 missions over Viet Nam, and was packed and ready to return home, when Dayton flew as a "back-seater" to 1st Lt. Ned R. Herrold on a diversionary mission south of the Dragon's Jaw (the Ham Rong Bridge), to allow slow-moving C-130s time to drop bombs on the Dragon's Jaw. This would give the younger man more combat flight time, while Dayton operated the sophisticated technical navigational and bombing equipment. * On May 31, 1966, the Herrold-Ragland aircraft was making the diversionary attack when other crew members saw it was hit by anti-aircraft fire. On the Herrold-Ragland final pass, the aircraft did not pull up, but went out to sea. They reported that they had taken heavy weapon fire. A ball of fire was seen as the plane went into the sea, and searches revealed no sign of survivors. The pilots were listed as MIA until 1970, when they were declared KIA.

Mrs. Ragland has provided information about Dayton Ragland's life, from their meeting and marrying, until he was MIA. However, Dayton did not discuss his prior experiences in the F-86, as a POW, etc., with her. He was a quiet, thoughtful person, a true patriot, and wasn't one to boast. However, his achievements are well above the norm, and his story needs to be told. I hope it will inspire young and old.

Is there anyone who can help me discover this information about him or help me search in another direction? I already have made requests to USAF Personnel (and received a minimum of information), Lincoln University MO, the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, The Black Archives of Mid-America, The POW network, and via, have traced his ancestry back three generations. The missing segment is KOREA. I can be contacted at:
Telephone: (310) 701-7144
7912 Madison Plantation Way
Fredericksburg, Virginia 22407

I have more photos, if this would be help. Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide.

MaryAnn Milton Butterfield

p.s. My husband (Robert L. Butterfield) flew the F-86 after the Korean War, and the B-57 and F-4 in Vietnam. At present he is president of the 13th Bomb Squadron Asso.

Subject:Archival gun camera footage.
Date:November 27, 2011

Hi, I have been trying to contact someone at the Nat'l archives / Air force. But even with emails, and snail mail. I have not gotten any response at all. I am trying to get copies of various gun camera footage from the korean war.

If anyone knows of someone that can do this for me. Please let me know. Thank you.

Ned Avejic
From:charles coppedge
Subject:F86D dedication
Date:November 26, 2011

Hello Bill.

Earlier this month I attended a ceremony at the MAPS museum in Akron, Ohio. The occasion was the dedication of an F86D to the museum. The aircraft was painted with the 496th FIS colors and the pilots name put on the aircraft was J B Lang, a 496th pilot who was killed in Germany. The whole story from finding the aircraft and following it thru refurbishment to the dedication can be totally explained to you by Mac McFarland at 330-958-7208. The dedication was on 11-11-11. And, yes, I was a member of the 496th.

Hope you can do something with this.

Charles M. Coppedge III
Subject:General Momyer Recollections
Date:November 25, 2011

Dear Sir-

My name is Case Cunningham and I am in the process of writing a biography on General William Momyer. General Momyer flew the F-86 during his time in command of the 8th Fighter-Bomber Wing, the 314th Air Division, and the 312th Fighter-Bomber Wing. If anyone has any stories and recollections that could bring this period of General Momyer's career to life, I'd greatly appreciate it if you emailed them to me at Thanks in advance for any help!

Case Cunningham

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From: Wayne Graefen
Subject:Lt. Col Bruce Hinton's custom car
Date:November 25, 2011 4:09:23 PM EST

In the April 28th, 1953 The Stars and Stripes, p.8, Lt. Col. Bruce Hinton, historical Sabre pilot is mentioned in an article as owning the most photographed object at Rhine Main at the time. The object was his car, a '48 model which he had contracted customized by the coachbuilding firm of Carosserie Spohn in Ravensburg, Germany.

I also own a Spohn custom car and am wondering if there are any of those many photos of the Hinton Spohn at Ravensburg that still exists. Spohn customs were known for their Sabre statement tail fins and my car has that feature and I suspect so did Col Hinton's.

Would be happy to have anyone contact me in this regard.

Wayne Graefen
Kerrville, TX

From:USI Info
Subject:F-86 Intercepts UFO
Date:September 25, 2011

Hi There,

Chapter One of Edward J. Ruppelt's classic UFO exposŽ The Report On Unidentified Flying Objects opens with, "In the summer of 1952 a United States Air Force F-86 jet interceptor shot at a flying saucer." The report goes on to say that the pilot opened fire with his guns.

I know the F-86H had guns, but it seems that it wasn't produced until 1953 ... so were there any F-86s with guns in operation during the summer of 1952? Any references? Are there any F-86 pilots in your group who are aware of this story or who have seen UFOs?

Thanks in advance ...

J. Randall Murphy
USI Calgary ( ) From:Randy Davis>
Subject:Fighter helmet
Date:September 24, 2011

I used to live in Sacramento Ca. just a few miles from McClellan Air Force Base. I found a helmet with oxygen mask in our back pasture. It had not been there previously, this was in about 1958-59. I have had it all these years and have kept it as safe as I could. The face mask has since been lost. The helmet has the pics "painted" of the seven seas ladies with the name "Atomic Whirler" I have tried many times to find out who the owner was but have been unable to do so. I would appreciate any help you could give. I presently live way up north in Ca.

Randy Davis

From:Ron Stephenson
Date: September 25, 2011

My dad flew an F86D during the Korean war. His last assignment was with the 515th Air Defense Group; Duluth, Minn.

He was 1st lt. Clarence Arthur Stephenson. He died when his F86-D crashed into a gravel _pit at the end of the E/W runway on Dec. 12th 1953

I'm trying to find any records relating to this


From: Sandy Few>
Date: August 13, 2011

I recently came across an article on the web regarding the ADC rocketry meets in Yuma, AZ during the 1950?s. Marty Isham was credited as having a vast knowledge of the operations of the ADC. I am very interested in contacting him. I believe my father, Capt. M.H. Castleberry, was a member of the F-94C Starfire team from the EADF 26th AD at all the meets held in Yuma during 1954 and 1955, and I am hoping Mr. Isham has a roster of the pilots of each team to confirm this. Because Dad performed admirably at these meets, he asked for and received a tour of duty in England on a pilots? exchange program with the RAF.

Does anyone know how to contact Marty Isham?

Thank you.
Sandra Castlebery Few

From: Stephanie Hogue>
Date: August 4, 2010
Subject: Sabre damage reports

You've been a big help in the past, and I'm hoping you and your readers will come through again.

Back in about 2000, someone sent me contact info for a man who worked on the Sabre at North American.  When he retired, he was allowed to take North American's copies of all the Sabre damage reports with him.

I mentioned this to a couple of DPMO analysts at the last Korean/Cold War POW/MIA briefing, and they would love to get copies of these reports.  It would be helpful in my uncle's case and possibly some others.  Unfortunately, I've moved and seem to have lost the contact info for this gentleman.

Can anyone help me out?

Stephanie Hogue

From: Veile, Mark A. (JSC-NC311)
Subject: 23rd Fighter Squadron Photos
Date: June 8, 2010

F-86 Webmaster -
Please post this note in your news, notes, and comments. I'm looking for photos of F-86s serving with the 23rd Squadron or 36th Wing at Bitburg. My name is Mark Veile and I was a member of the 23rd Tac Fighter Squadron flying the F-4 Phantom from 1984 -87. I am also a model builder and have started a project to build models of the 23rds aircraft throughout its history. I have found photos of almost all of the squadron's aircraft types but have come up short with the F-86. The 23rd was based at Bitburg AB, Germany with the 36th Fighter Wing. They flew the F-86F from 1953-56. I am looking for photos of the F-86s with the 23rd FS or 36th FW at that time. I have found one photo on-line of a 461st FS F-86 that was attached to the 36th at that time. I believe all of the wing's jets were carried similar style markings with the squadron colors being the only difference. In the photo the jet looks to be overall grey in color as opposed to natural metal. Does anyone know if this is true?

If anyone has photos or information they can share, please reply to me at


From: Ray Boone
Subject: F-86 Static display, Sembach AB, Germany
Date: May 2, 2010
I?m looking for any information on an F-86F, 52-5372, currently on display at Sembach, AB Germany.

I?m active duty Air Force stationed at Ramstein AB., and part of a team planning to move this aircraft from its current location to Ramstein, refurbish it to 86th Fighter-Bomber / Fighter Interceptor Wing markings, as depicted in the attached pic, and displayed as part of developing Air Park here on Ramstein.

I've contacted the Wing Historian, but haven?t? heard back from them yet and continuing my research on-line.

I don?t know if you have any archive data on these acft or this one, but anything you have or directions you can point me in, is greatly appreciated.


R. Boone

From: Bob Jasperson
Date: November 21, 2009
Subject: Minnesota Sabre Pilots

I am with an aviation history group in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area called Wings of the North. Each summer we produce the most prestigious aviation event in our area call the AirExpo. AirExpo 2010 is scheduled for July 17-18 at Flying Cloud Airport, just southwest of MSP. For this show we bring together aviation dignitaries from different time periods and disciplines. We have Doolittle Raiders, Tuskegee Airmen, WASPs, Viet Nam aircrews, astronauts, forward air controllers, and so on. We always have trouble locating Korean War airmen.˙ General Boots Blesse has come up from Florida a few times and we have some Marine Corsair pilots locally who flew in both WWII and Korea. We would like to have some more F-86 pilots.

Could you put out the word to your members who live in the Twin Cities area that we would like them to contact us about being part of AirExpo 2010. They can find more information about the show on our web site at The site also has a nice video that was shot at AirExpo 2008. I think Boots is even on it. We'd like to find at least 3 or 4 Sabre pilots who could represent the Korean War time period at the show. Any help you can give me will be appreciated. Your members can contact me at If they would like to call me instead my number is 612-867-5866.

Thank you for your help.
Bob Jasperson,
Vice President, Wings of the North.

My name is Dick Gold M/SGT Ret. I flew with the 115th from 1965 to 1984 with a two year break flying KC-97's at O'Hare in Chicago. Finished my flying career at Norton on C-141's. I currently live in Sacramento and volunteer at the Aerospace Museum located at the old McClellan AFB. I am the Crew Chief on an F-86f Sabre (51-13082) that's last duty assignment was with the 195th F.I.S. at Van Nuys Air National Guard Base in California.

The aircraft was at Goleta California for many years before being donated to the museum. It has been "let go" and is in bad need of some "TLC" The aircraft cockpit has been gutted and the paint is gone in many places. The current paint scheme is a combination of the "boomerang" and the 115th scheme. I plan to paint it in the correct 195th red, black and white scheme. I have been able to find almost all the cockpit components but still lack a gunsight, seat back plate and rails and the engine start panel. I have located a gunsight and continue to look for the other two parts. We will be making some of the side console parts from pictures and drawings.

I have a special love for this bird because as a young child, I spent hours at the end of the runway just waiting to see them come and go. It led to my wanting to fly and many years of enjoyment and fun. It's now my turn to try and keep this aircraft and its history alive!

We are seeking funds to help with the project as well as any pictures, memorabilia, stories, old uniforms, patches and anything else that would help with our display. All donors will be given credit with their names painted on the main gear doors. We hope to "unveil" it next spring and if you're interested in being there, let us know at Donations can be made directly to the museum and are tax deductible. They can be sent to the Aerospace Museum of California 3200 Freedom Park Dr. McClellan Ca 95652 Indicate it's for the F-86f.

For other donations, please contact me at the above e mail.


From: William Sawyer
Date: June 12, 2009
Subject: dads plane

Hello, my dad was the Crew Chief on the F86d, Dennis the Menace. I would like to know how to find the pilot, Lt. Finlay.
I think he was with Wright Patterson.
Any info.... where to look, would be helpful
Thanks Bill Sawyer

Subject:67th FBS Korea
Date:June 12, 2009
On Jun 12, 2009, Gary wrote:

My father was Gary G. Wright and a member of the 67th FBS at K55. He graduated from Pilot Training Class 52G. I would appreciate any info/stories about him from any members.

I would also appreciate copies/scans of any photos members may have of him or the 67th FBS F86's. The name on the side of my dads plane was "When The Lights Go Out Again".

As I am in ill health, I have been trying to put information together for my children to better know their grandfather.He has been MIA since 1-17-67 while flying with the 11th TRS out of Udorn Thailand.

Thanks for any help!

Gary Wright Jr.

From: Joe Neale
Date: October 24, 2008
Subject: Phil Neale

My father, Phil Neale, flew F-86's with the 93rd at Kirtland AFB from 1953-1955 and with the 525th in Bitburg, Germany from 1955-1958.  After that he transferred to Edwards AFB where he was a test pilot and flight test instructor.  He was killed on September 8, 1965 during a test flight of a Dassault Balzac near Paris, France.

Anyhow, I would appreciate it if any of his fellow F-86 pilots from Kirtland or Bitburg can contact me (  Since he died when he was 35-years-old, I'm attempting to put together some information for my brothers/sisters and his grandchildren so they can know what kind of man he really was.  Any kind of stories (on or off duty) would really be appreciated.

Joe Neale

Subject: F-86H Information

Date: September 22, 2008

My name is Greg Thomas and I am trying to get some information about the F-86H.  I am a member of the Pacific Coast Air Museum in Santa Rosa, California.  We have an F-86H that I am the Crew Chief on.  I am hoping that maybe you can help me, the serial number is 53-1308, we were able to save this aircraft from the bad men who destroy aircraft at China Lake.  What I am looking for is some of the history on this aircraft and any available manuals, flight or maintnenace so that I can properly restore it to the condition that it should be shown.

I would appreciate any help that you can supply.

Thank you,
Greg Thomas

From: Matt
Date: September 27, 2008
Subject: F-86H 53-1308

My name is Matt Hensarling and I'm heading up a static restoration of F-86H 53-1380 in Denver, Colo. This is a long shot but I figured I would ask anyway - we are in search of an H model canopy or at least the bubble as we have a frame. Our bird is currently fitted with a D model canopy with a modified fairing to make it fit. We'd like to replace the D model canopy with something accurate.  Any idea at all where I can locate a H model canopy or at least the glass?

 Matt Hensarling
Wings Over the Rockies Air & Space Museum

From: Henry Matthews
Date: September 26, 2008


My name is Henry Matthews. I am an independent author/publisher of books on the history of experimental aircraft. I only print two or three hundred copies of each title, so mine is far from a profitable business. But my aim is to preserve history in book form.

I need to know who made the first flight of the second and third XP-86 prototypes. And I need to know the number of flights made by each of the three prototypes.

Can you provide this information, or direct me to someone who may?

Because the Sabre was such a phenomenal success story, its initial protypes have never been properly documented as the opertional aircraft took all the attention of writers and publishers. This is how experimental aviation history is lost.

I would love to produce a monograph on the XP-86 prototypes, with complete flight logs and pictures and bios of the test pilots. Can you help in providing this material?

Please take a look at my website for an idea of my work and what I hope to do.

With best regards

Henry Matthews

From: Cass C
Date: September 26, 2008
Subject: Searching for a pilot

Thank you for posting my earlier request.  I spoke to my father about the site and he asked me to forward a request in hopes someone knew this man.  I'll try to relay the events correctly but I'm not a pilot so my words may not do justice to the request.

My father, Frank P. Robison is looking for the pilot who flew with the 4th Fighter Wing, 16th Squadron at K-14. 

His first combat mission, he flew as White 4 in summer of 1951.  The leader and element leader pitched out and White 4 was told to join up with White father.

They were after 24 Migs attacking an F-80 squadron. 

Later that year, possibly winter of 51/52, this pilot received heavy damage to his transmission and was forced to belly in an F86 at K-14.  Dad was very impressed with the pilot's skill and at one time, had a copy of the accident report but later, it was given to another pilot and Dad never saw it again.  He is looking for the pilot or his family or possibly someone who knew him.  He does not recall the pilot's name.

If you have any information, you can contact me via email and I will forward it to my father.

Thank you,

Sandy Robison

From: Mac McKinnon
Date: August 1, 2008 10:01:22 AM EDT
Subject: F-86

My name is Mac McKinnon and I'm publsiher of the Dublin Citizen newspaper and am involved with the Dublin American Legion. Part of one of our projects has been a Dublin Veterans' memorial and we have recently obtained a state historical marker to commemorate that site and honor Lt. Col. George Davis who was shot down in Korea while flying an F-86. He was awarded the Medal of Honor. Our Memorial is located on the Korean War Memorial Highway (U.S. Hwy. 6).

We have space for a static display of an F-86 if we can find one. However, that has proven to be a difficult task as few of those exist. We do not need an aircraft in flying condition but one we could let people see and know that was the machine that Col. Davis taught so many pilots how to fly and the fact that he was an ace in Korea. Any help would be appreciated.

Mac McKinnon
254-445-4116 (fax)

From: Gene R Carlson
Date: July 22, 2008
Subject: 355th Fighter Group - McGhee-Tyson TN

My name is Gene Carlson and I am a member of the 355th Fighter Association.  It is an "all inclusive" organization for any and all current or former 355th members from 1942 to the present.  Our membership consists primarily of WWII and Vietnam era veterans with one member who was with the 355th at both McGhee-Tyson TN and at Takhli Thailand.  We also have a few current active duty 355th members.  I would like to see some of the 355th veterans from McGhee-Tyson era join us too.

We are looking for anyone who served with the 355th Fighter Group at McGhee-Tyson TN (1955-1958).  Our next reunion is tentatively scheduled for Oct 09 in San Antonio TX.

Would also be interested in any historical data on the 355th at McGhee-Tyson TN that you might care to share with us.  BTW, I need a photo of a 355th F-86 for my web site.  Any help you would provide me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for your time and I hope to hear from you soon.

Gene Carlson
355th Munitions Maintenace Squadron
Gun Services Section (A-7D)
March 1973 - May 1976

My "UnOfficial" 355th web site

From: Thomas Wildenberg
Subject: A1-C gunsight research

I am researching the origins, development and operational history of the A1-C lead computing gun sight, which some sources claim to have played a significant role in the Korean War victories secured by Sabre pilots..  I would like to contact those of your membership who had experience with this device to obtain there option and information regarding it's effectiveness, importance and reliability.  Please let me know the best way that his can be accomplished.

Thomas Wildenberg
Burtonsville, Maryland

From: Don Webb
Date: May 18, 2008
Subject: Looking for Person who emergency-landed a F-86


  I had sent this request months ago, but do not know if you posted it, or if I missed someone's response to it. Would appreciate if you would run again. Back in either 1954, 1955 or 1956, (can't rememer the exact year) as a small boy in the small north Florida community of Lee, (Madison County) Florida, I recall an incident of where a pilot had to make an emergency landing of what I believe was an F-86 fighter jet.  The site of this incident was approximately 30 miles south of Valdosta, Georgia, 50 miles east of Tallahassee, Florida and 100 miles west of Jacksonville, Florida. The pilot put the jet down on a paved 2 lane "farm to market" road (1 mile north of the Lee community on SR 255), but for some reason it came to rest off the shoulder of the road. I do not recall from which base this plane originated. It may have been from Moody AFB (Georgia), Maxwell AFB (Alabama) or Eglin AFB (Florida). I have searched for years and years for more info on this incident.  I hope that someone reading this may recall and can share more about it with me.


  Don Webb

From: "Mark P. Wicka"
Date: May 6, 2008
Subject: Looking for Info

I was wondering if any one had any info on my uncle, Lt. Robert H. Workman.  He flew the F-86 and for some time he was stationed in Tripoli.  After that he was an instructor based in Florida.  He was killed in 1955, he was in a T-33 somewhere over the US east coast.  The story I was told was that a Lt. Col. was at the controls, flew into a thunderhead, blew the canopy, and my uncle was sucked out.  I was only 2 years old when he was killed.
Thank you

  Mark Wicka
Field Service Tech
Timesavers Inc.

From: "Paul Mather"
Date: March 6, 2008
Subject: Inadvertant take-off, F-86

        I'm in the process of trying to pull together a collection of true aviation-related stories. ?        Many many years ago, I recall reading a magazine article about a most amazing incident.  A USAF mechanic, after performing some late-night maintenance on an F-86, decided to perform a high speed taxi test.  After calling the tower and gaining permission to take the runway (and already having the proper runup and taxi license to perform such tests), he accelerated down the runway and soon found himself airborne.  Most of the details of this incident are vague in my memory, but I seem to recall that another F-86 was scrambled to join up with the hapless mechanic, and he was eventually talked back down on a long straight-in approach to a safe landing.  I seem to recall that this took place at a base in the southwest, perhaps at Luke, or at Williams.
Would any of your members have knowledge of this story?  I need a place to begin my research, so any fragment of information about this incident would be very helpful. Many thanks for your assistance.

Paul D. Mather
LtCol USAF (Ret)

From: Dwain Kline
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008
Subject: Looking for Korean War pilot

I'm looking for a Harold "Hal" Herringshaw, who flew an F-86 in the Korean war. He is from New York state and was in the air force from 1950 to 1959. Any info would be very much appreciated.

Dwain Kline

From: hilary
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007
Subject: Vegas, 1954

I was at the Monte Carlo hotel during the last Sabre Pilots reunion and talked with several of you about Nellis and Las Vegas in the early 1950s. My thanks to those of you who took a few minutes to speak with me.

I'm writing a book about the search for my father, who I believe was a pilot, and my mother, an English woman who lived and worked in Las Vegas in 1953 - 1954. She was killed in a car crash when I was an infant, so I never knew her, and know little about her life.

I'm coming to the end of my search and my writing, but some questions, and a great mystery, still remain. Does anyone remember a radio show known as "Midnite Along Fremont Street" hosted by Jack Kogan? Did anyone know my mother, Ann Preston? And, most importantly, does anyone remember an officer of Greek ethnicity who would have been at Nellis in the early months of 1954?

This means so much to me, and to my sons, who would like to know their heritage. Thank You! Hilary Harper

From: CHRIS TALLEVAST Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007
Subject: Research-539th FIS

Gentlemen, Looking to get in touch with anyone who served with the 539th FIS at McGuire in the summer of 1958, who may have known my Uncle. I am working on a Masters Degree in Military History, and very interested in this period, as well as the family connection.

Appreciate an e-mail or call and may even be able to pay a small fee for an interview that will help my research.

Thank you,
C. Tallevast

ph 410/433-1647

From: Kurt
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007
Subject: F-86D acft 52-3864 and F-86F 52-4743

I have been looking for any and all information on two particular Sabre aircraft F-86D acft 52-3864 and F-86F 52-4743.

52-3864 was assigned to the 62nd FIS at O-Hare Int'l Airport, il. Later it went to the 85th FIS at Scott AFB in 1955. Last know to have been on display at the VFW in Lanham, MD.

52-4743 was assigned to the 452nd Fighter Day Sqdn at Foster AFB, TX. Later went to the 49th FBW at Chitose maybe to the 336th FBS.It ended up with the Phillippine AF.

If anyone has any information on these aircraft or pictures it would be greatly appreciated.


Kurt Gibson

Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007
Subject: F-86D

Whomever: I was withe the 15th fighter interceptor squadron in 1955 >1957. Worked With Evert Beuchamp a civilian eng with Lockheed. We repaired the Integrated fuel control systems on the F-86 dogs . Are any of the pilots from the 15Th still alive and attending the get together's.

From: Chief Mate USNS EFFECTIVE (T-AGOS-21)
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007
Subject: Gathering information

I am doing some research for my wife who her father was a F86 pilot during the 1950's. She has pictures of him in the 93rd Fighter Squadron at Wheeler AFB. There is an article that talks about him flying a F-86 Sabre there. Also an article that talks about the gunnery team of the 81st fighter gunnery event. Pictures of him of him at Las Vegas airbase for gunnery event. He was also in the 93rd Fighter Interceptor Squadron at Kirtland AFB in New Mexico 1951. Another article about him in Suffolk England with the only Sabre group in Europe in march 1953. He also flew F84F jets at Bentwater England in 1954. Then he was at Brooks Air Force Base 10th District for the Office of Special Investigations. He retired as a Lt. Colonel John Fink and passed away in 1980. Thank you in advance and I wait for you response.


Captain Kirk G. Rhoda
U.S. Merchant Marine Services

From: David Neafcy
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Subject: 45th Fighter Day Squadron

Hello - I'm trying to contact Wendell B. Stockdale who was a pilot of the 45th, based in Morocco. On 22nd March 1956, when I was just 4 years old, he crashed his Sabre here in England whilst en route to Prestwick, Scotland. I know that he was living in Lancaster, Pennsylvania in 2001 and I would dearly like to contact him. (Prompted by my off-spring, I'm writing a book about my childhood). Witnessing that crash is one of my earliest memories and if I close my eyes I can still see his helmet, lying in a muddy field, split and covered in blood and the Sabre with its wings torn off. If anyone knows Mr Stockdale I would be very grateful if they could ask him to contact me or point me in the right direction.

Many thanks, Dave Neafcy.

From: Lindy Corgey
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007
Subject: Any Knowledge Of Lt. Russell J. Brown F80C Kills MiG15, 8 Nov 50

I was just wondering if your organization has any knowledge of Lt. Russell Brown. The U.S.A.F. Museum has his ID Card and cigarette case. Even though it was not a F86. It is still impressive that a F80C could kill a MiG15. The G-suit and superior training paid off. Thank you for reading my email.

Lindy Corgey

From: Hudson Renat MSgt 166MXM/LGMFS
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007
Subject: F-86 Ejection Seat

Hello, I am currently in the middle of restoring an ejection seat and was curious as to what the back pad was made out of. I can't find any decent pictures to help me. Our unit is working on placing the plane in front of our base and they want to display the seat in our HQ. If you could send me a good picture or let me know what the seat consists of, any help would be greatly appreciated. Here is a picture of the seat so far. Thank You.

Renat "NAT" Hudson
MSgt, DE Air Guard
Surv Equip NCOIC
DSN: 445-7574

From:RJ Holland
Sent:Thu, May 10, 2007

I flew F-86Fs with Bill Coe with the 8th Fighter-Bomber Wing, 35th Squadron, out of K-13 in 1953. Haven't heard of him since. He was a very interesting and colorful guy and if anyone out there has any information on him, I would appreciate hearing about it.

RJ Holland

From: Farnsworth
Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006
Subject:461st FS
Lynn Farnsworth, Misty 146

Hello. I am looking for members of the 461st FS from the 1950s when the squadron was flying F-86s and F-100s in West Germany. The 461st Flight Test Squadron recently reactivated at Edwards AFB. I am trying to get in contact with our members from years past so I can reconstruct some of our squadron history, which seems to have been lost over the years. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Matt "T2" Ryan

Subject:Dedication of an F-86H
October 2, 2006

Member Bill Studer bought and restored and F-86H. He has donated it and it is to be dedicated at a Memorial in Lakeview MN on November 11, 2006. For Information, Photo and more check Lakeville Veterans Memorial.

From: "William Powell"
Subject: Perrin AFB Class 51G
Date: Saturday, August 26, 2006

I was in class 51G at Perrin. Would like to hear from classmates if they are still alive. The AvCad web page is devoid of this class. Thought I would try your web and hope for a hit or two.

William Powell

From: WWll Willie Wilson
Subject: Looking 4 help!
Date: Monday, August 14, 2006 1:47 PM

I'm "looking" for someone who flew the 86 at Geiger Field in Spokane, WA some years ago.

What I am looking for is one of the old "Geigers Tigres" F86 pilots who has a copy of the Sqdn made movie titled "Geigers Tigres" that they will let me borrow, make a DVD copy and mail it back to them.

I've been attempting to get in touch with Edward "Buddy" R. Haydon, but so far I've come up empty. He would be approx 86 years old and may no longer be with us - I just do not know.

I am collecting all the old Fighter Squadron funny made movies I can get my hands on, plus "other" interesting to Fighter Pilots stuff. After I do collect as many of these Sqdn made movies, I will have a DVD (perhaps 2 DVDs) made and sell them at cost. So far I have approx 53 requests for the DVDs, and I haven't even asked for an order yet!! In fact, I'm still in the "gathering stages" of my project. I have 4-5 Sq made movies so far, but I must collect all I can, "FIRST" so I can view, have changes made and time each movie and set up a sequnce of how I want to have them put put on the DVD(s). This is very time consuming.

Movies I have so far are:
"A Typical Fighter Pilots Day At Itazuke"
"Throw a Nickel on the Grass"
"Gold Bond Powder"
A 16mm film of an "F-100 Thunderbird Show" (in color, sound approx 15-18 mins long) Various video clips, 4 or 5 (from the Internet) of various intrest "There Is A Way" (F-105 pilots bombing raids in NVN and interviews with pilots-made for TV ...and other things I cannot recall at the moment.

If anyone has or knows where I can obtain the"Geigers Tigres" film please get in touch with me..

Thanks a million,
Willie Wilson
430 Terrace Hill Blvd
Tel (386) 775-3332
Subject: 444th Fighter Interceptor Squadron
Date:June 19, 2006


I am looking for any information regarding my Dad, John David Brownlee. He was a GE engineer at the AFB in Charleston, SC in 1959 when he was killed in an auto accident on Rifle Range Rd. Among his belongings was a ceramic beer stein with the squadron insignia, the year & his last name.

My mom died last year & we've just laid my grandmother to rest last week. Both women were tragically affected by his death & never recovered from the loss. At the time of his death, unbeknownst to my mother, she was 3 weeks pregnant with me. Neither of these women could bear to speak about my dad without completely losing it, so I am desperate for information about my dad. He is a myth & a legend that I am trying to make real. Any information would be so greatly appreciated

Most sincerely,
Elaine Simmons
Realtor, ABR, GRI
Subject: Sabre Piloits Assn
Date: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:46 PM

The pictures below are pictures taken in the summer of 1955 at Itazuke AB, Japan. The formations are F-86F's of the 36th and 36th FBS, 8th FBW during a flyby for a Group or Wing Commanders departure. I flew in the formation and believe it might be the last formation that big (40 ship) since WWII and the only formation that large of the Sabre.

Pictures of me taken in Suwon (K-13) Korea in July 1954 prior to Wg move to Itazuke. Scarf of 36th FBS "Flying Fiends" (Again now at Osan AB, Korea as 36th TFS)

Subject: Joe Lynch-test pilot
Date: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:42 PM

It was very meaningful to me today to read a story published in 1993 by Neil Fossum titled " The Ramp Went Silent..." For you see, the pilot, Joe Lynch was my Father. It happened so many years ago, and yet it only seems like yesterday. My Father had been very upset about the construction of the tail of the plane and had spoken to my Mother about it alot before the air show. He told her it just did not feel right and she said she realized in thinking about it later, how very worried he was. North American attributed the accident to "pilot error", but none of the pilots thought that. We were coming home from the market that evening about 6:00 P.M. and my Mother mentioned that the car behind us looked familiar, but it passed our house. Then a little later, the doorbell rang, and the executives from North American were at the door. I may be wrong, but I think George Welch was killed 6 months later. My Father was very good friends with Bob Hoover, and Dan Darnell and the list goes on. Ironically, my Father was going to stop testing planes after this tour throughout the U.S.

After he died, his friends put together a book of pictures of my Father and all of the planes he flew or tested throughout his life. Also, framed pictures of him and the other pilots and models of all of the fighter planes.

My Mother never got over his death. She just died in January. I wish she could have read this story. Daddy became very religious before he was killed. Maybe he knew something. He was only 33.

Georgia Lynch McClure
Subject: member picture
Date: Monday, April 24, 2006

My father was George Robert Grosz Jr, passed in 2002.

I have a photograph attached, poster sized of Sabres over San Francisco I believe. Tail Numbers 23761, 23736, 23678, 23692. I dont know who the other pilots are nor the group all though they all have striped tails and bulls snorting on the side.

I'd like to get it to someone who might appreciate it, perhaps one of the other pilots or ??? well I don't know, but there has to be a better solution than the garbage.

Let me know what you think might be best.

G. Robert Grosz III

Subject: 1st Fighter 27th Squadron Rome, N.Y. 1950-51
Date: Friday, March 31, 2006

I would like to locate and contact members of the 1st Fighter 27th Squadron Rome, NY - 1950-51 era. I have just recently learned of an autobiography written by Lt. Col Robert W. Smith, titled, "" and my dad George "Buster" Helbing, was pictured with Lt. Joe Moore. students Joe Krumerine, Charlie Roby, Bob Smith, John McCulloch and Lloyd White. Other possible members could be John Honaker, Flight Commander Bill Wisner, Maj Robin Olds,and Maj Clayton Peterson. If you happen to know any of these gentleman or are one of these gentleman, please drop me an email or a phone call, I would like to talk with you regarding my dad. When I saw the picture from Lt Col Smiths book you couldn't believe how excited I was, perhaps there are other memories you could share. Look forward to hearing from you.

John Helbing
636 527 4213
Saint Louis, Mo

From: Trey Taylor
Subject: Giger Tiger Video
Date: Thursday, March 16, 2006


My grandfather served with the Giger Tigers unit, and we were recently trying to locate the video that the squadron produced, and from what I read, gained some amount of popularity for. We have applied him for the Wright Brother's Master Pilot Award recently, and for the ceremony would like to play this video. We were unable to locate it, although he is trying to contact some of his former squadronmates for copies of it. Is there any place I can purchase this video, or is there someone that has a copy of it that you would know of? If you could help me out with this, I would greatly appreciate it.


Trey Taylor

Subject: Sabre stuff
Date: Sunday, February 19, 2006 11:56 PM
It was my great pleasure to get to fly the F-86H at China Lake, California about 1972-75. We were converting them to "full-scale maneuvering targets" -- QF-86Hs. I love to tell about flying it. I tell that after making my first touch-and-go landing, I said "There's no need to practice any more; I'll never make a better landing than that." It was that easy to fly. I tell people that it was the sweetest flying plane I ever flew. (In the Navy I flew Banshees, Skyrays, Demons and Phantoms in carrier based squadrons, and numerous other jets during a 31-year career.)

I am planning on joining. I would like to see if I can locate anyone who flew with Henry A. Sibley, Jr. in 1951-52. He was a high school classmate. He went through F-86 training at Willie and then went to K-14 in Korea. Crash landed a Sabre at Kimpo about June 1952. Broke both ankles as well as his back. Medically retired. He was best man at my wedding in 1953. Died of lung cancer 8 April 1994; buried at Ft Sam Houston.

Tom Wimberly, Captain, USN Retired
Corpus Christi, Texas

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